An Honourable Concession

 Dear Mr Ignatieff

I sincerely feel, with no reservations, that you have run the gauntlet of returning to Canada and will genuinely win the hearts of many more Canadians having heard your final speech of the Leadership race. With generosity, grace and encouragement to those who supported you, you underscored the uniting of the Liberal Party. This act of leadership will be remembered.

I was a supporter of Mr. Dion after David Orchard, whom I greatly respect, asked me to consider him, I informed myself as best a possible all the candidates. I must admit I had great doubts as to the mechanics of your choice by certain parties in the Liberal organization. This and other issues were an unfortunate disadvantage to you but in the end, on that stage you conceded with honour and you have my greatest respect.

Welcome to Canada.

John Warren

Stephane Dion - Leader of the Opposition Party

The Hon. Stephane Dion: Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada

Congratulations Mr. Dion on your successful bid to become Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. I saw it as a natural unfolding to begin healing the division of the Liberals and putting Canada back on track as a Nation worthy of it's previous global respect. Congratulations also to Michael Ignatieff who was graceful and generous and emphasized the greater need to unite the Liberals. Congratulations to all the candidates who brought their passions and visions for a 'Canadian' government and not a 'New' government. I look forward to a re-claimed Liberal Party in the spirit of the dynamic new times as it is the legacy of the party to make the Canadian vision happen.

And let one thing be your first lesson, never brag that your mike can't be cut.

Cheers to all of Canada,
John Warren

CBC Cuts Off Stephane Dion's Mike

Despite CBC's talking heads describing this 2006 Liberal Leadership Convention as one of the most important and most exciting in modern political times, which it legitimately is, at least since the Trudeau nomination in 1968, and despite Stephane Dion bragging about his new status that will protect him from his mike being cut off, CBC did just that! Amounting to the biggest insult in modern political times CBC cut short Dion's acceptance speech, which is important to all Canadians, and they cut to hockey! What's more Canadian than that? Beer? Tim Horton's coffee? The “Canadian Idiot”?

CBC is the Canadian Idiot.

It Was a Dark and Stormy Morning...

On Oct 17/06:
As I said it was a dark and stormy morning and an even darker and stormier Anti-Poverty Coalition were about tumbling the walls of Queens Park with their bullhorns. Thousands were expected but the the the worst weather of the warm season decimated the turnout to about 150 – 200 gritty demons.

Anti-poverty groups from across Ontario gathered to to let the McGuintistes know that that unfulfilled election promises 3 years ago on affordable housing, food security, minimum wage, social 'under-assistance' were no better than his shattered promises which served to get him elected and that's about all.

And surprising that it may be, that for all my mouth and a boomer child of the 60's, this was my first rally! But you can't label me a fair-weather protester, I had my trial by drowning that wild and wicked day. But the infectious influence of the rabble-rousing influence of The STOP Community Food Centre and the supplier of food to all the groups was an irresistible force.

Afghanistan - Harper's Excellent Diversion

The unimagined has happened in almost perfect secrecy.

From Sept 12 – 14 in Banff, Alberta, Donald Rumsfeld, his assistant, Lt. Gen. Gene Renuart and former secretary of energy and defence James Schlesinger and other top level American political and military officials as well as heads of American corporations met in Banff with their counterparts, Minister of Public Safety Stockwell Day, Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Rick Hillier and Alberta Energy Minister Greg Melchin Former Alberta premier Peter Lougheed co-chaired the event alongside former U.S. secretary of state George Shultz and former Mexican finance minister Pedro Aspe to discuss North American integration at the second North American Forum. (The first forum in California was top secret also).

The event was organized by the Thomas D’Aquino, head of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives – the elite club of Canada's richest CEOs - and the Canada West Foundation, an Alberta think-tank that promotes, among other things, closer economic integration with the United States and Ron T. Covais, president of the Lockheed Martin Corporation, which is the largest weapons manufacturer in the United States.

And no one had a clue of this historic meeting until the story broke by a local newspaper several days after it ended, The Banff Crag & Canyon And what is most notable, far more than it not being picked up by the mainstream media, the Toronto Star being an exception with Maude Barlowe’s piece, Getting closer to Uncle Sam and the Globe & Mail still has nothing on their site, is that The National Post has absolutely no reference to this event, and as this paper is part of the CanWest MediaWorks Publications Inc empire, it happened right under the nose of the Asper’s!

Unmentionable? Unimaginable!!

The only journalist that was privy to the meeting was from the Wall Street Journal. The Bilderberg Group does not hold a candle to this ‘Banff Group’.



Harper or some Rove-like advisor, Tom Flanagan maybe, has the undivided attention of just about every Canadian, pro and con, of his “war” that we are missing completely what he and his American others are doing on the domestic front.

Wars are a classic smokescreen.

After moving forward in a number of small and ‘low-radar’ meetings, time is running out for Bush, has two years left and Harper with his minority government has a window of opportunity with Canada’s ‘natural governing party’ leaderless and in complete disarray, that they are going ‘ell for leather’ to integrate North America.

Manifest Destiny could never be so close.

To keep on top of the developments and ways that you can return us to rational governance is to either link and get an rss feed to Vive Le Canada or just Google “rumsfeld banff”

Who could have ever thought the CPC could plan this brilliantly when only a year ago they couldn’t tie their shoelaces. Who indeed.

Where is Aleister Crowley when you need him.

More Salt Peter?

Bush's secret weapon to conquer Canada - a weapon of male seduction no less! Her Again!?! It's a trick Peter!! Belinda is better for you than her!

You Must Remember This...

Not so long ago Condi was makin the moves on an innocent Canadian boy...

Pass the Salt Peter

True Love?

STREET crEDIBLES #2 - Corn Roast

We went to our first corn roast, yes actually roast, last sat with the STOP people and had a wonderful time. Here is a link to some pics... (Thanks to Marie Van Schie for the pics.)

I love roasted corn (never roasted corn before) especially with the various butter sauces (fresh chives from the garden and basil ditto). Also I had one with a lime dipped in chili powder and rubbed on the corn - really nice East Indian style.

Today we walked over to Wychwood Park to see the Barn site and wondered down to the pond and took a few pics... (Thanks again to Marie Van Schie for the pics.)

Tomorrow we're going to make a pizza at their bake oven and Wed will be in the garden again.

STREET crEDIBLES!

Fri afternoon Marie and I got a call from the project manager, Amanda, for the community garden at STOP Community Food Centre and confirmed our volunteering for the community garden. Woohoo! We started the next day from 10 - noon. Arrived before Amanda, and met Herman who is given an honorarium to look after the garden and spends most of his days there working it and keeping an eye open for problems - people stealing or messing it up. He lives in a house across the lane and can watch it from there.

We got the tour from him and were told not to touch anything and told us why as some vegetables were young and some special Caribbean type stuff. Naturally he is very protective!

He is a real charmer after you work with him for a while. We took a break after an hour crawling around on our hands and knees under the tomato plants picking weeds. He had mixed up a beverage from the various mints in the garden and some gingerroot and asked us to try it. It was delicious! It was sweet but not too much and the ginger was predominant over the mint but not too much and there was a natural fizz but not too much nice body but not too much - it was just right. Had a full glass the next and chased it down with cold coffee. Amazingly perfect.

Had a great morning. We are going back Wed from 5:30 - 8pm. Marie is quite excited about the Green Barn Project, STOP is part of it with Foodshare, at the old Wychwood TTC Barns. We are keeping our ears to the rail on that one but in the meantime we are looking forward to working with the people at STOP.

So for the last 2 days, we have been putting up a small garden on the balcony, with green onions, peas and M wants to try some beets while there is still some growing season. We are making some room up by the windows to try to grow some things over the winter. Next year we plan to go crazy. M is inspired to do this having a small book called The Apartment Gardener.

Putting Canada In Harms Way

The Right Hon. Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada
Harper.S@parl.gc.ca

CSIS is advising Canadians that in light of our troops fighting in Afghanistan and your decision not to send a contingent of our armed forces to help keep the peace in Lebanon will make us more likely targets of extremists.

It is one thing that any person legitimately carrying or directing a weapon to defend our laws and justice, who has done so on a voluntary basis, with the full understanding that he or she will be called to place themselves in harms way, is an honourable thing. But you have chosen to place the citizens of Canada in harms way unilaterally in a non-voluntary way without a mandate from all Canadians including the majority of us who did not vote for you. This is an insidious form of conscription.

Information has been made available to the NDP that there is some capacity to send ‘peacekeepers’ to Lebanon. It is also distressing that you are joining the other major occupiers of Iraq, the US, Australia and Britain in declining help to the UN for their mission.

Your decision, and those of your cabinet, the posturing and vocabulary are no doubt inflammatory to those who you are trying to protect us from. You are replicating American foreign policy for your supporters benefit, not most Canadians and the world in general. One wonders at the method behind the madness of making us bigger targets but surely it could be seen as ultimately tying into the North American Security Perimeter and all our sovereignty that will go down with it.

The best thing I can give you in your favour is at least you have removed the sweater over our eyes and revealed the degeneration of the reputation of Canadians as peacekeepers and God knows what else some politicians have been perpetrating in our names since Mulroney.

I feel that it would be Canada’s interest that you send some legitimate peacekeepers to Lebanon for as long as required and begin exiting out of Afghanistan.

Respectfully,
John Warren

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Harper and the American Manifest Destiny

This just in:
Mergers and Acquisitions (and other economic disappointments) of Canada’s best companies was booming last week.




Our hi-tech firms just U.S. farm teams?
Markham jewel latest acquisition. Lack of investment support blamed.
Tyler Hamilton, Jul. 25, 2006

CPR chief pooh-poohs takeover rumours
Brent Jang
Globe and Mail Update, 25/07/06

Canada wins softwood lumber case in U.S. court (disputed once again)
Last Updated Fri, 21 Jul 2006
The Canadian Press

BFGoodrich closing tire factory in Kitchener
1,100-employees face job loss
Canadian Press
Published: Thursday, February 02, 2006



Canadians (the people) have always resisted American incursions, militarily, philosophically and economically, in our sovereign affairs. Though for some mysterious reason there are times that the Canadian government has opened its arms to encroaching “Integration”, more often than not in the last 20 years and more deceivingly, if not completely invisible, to the Canadian public.

Mulroney primarily, Chretien, Martin and Thomas d'Aquino, Chief Executive and President of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, all share complicity to a large degree in this drift by either lying, reneging and/or trying to sneek through legislation that Canadians never gave them a mandate to. In this article I am referring to the 'Mulroney Free Trade Debacle' (FTA), NAFTA, Deep Integration and the ‘boiling frog’ technique to stew us. They try to not only sell us the hot tub to luxuriate in, they extol the virtues of this pot as they very gradually turn up the temperature until we find we are cooked.

Having just finished reading “The Fight for Canada” by David Orchard (check it out!) it was news to me that the Canadian history I was taught in grade school was far more than limited to the Battle of 1812. I exaggerate of course but I must admit that paying attention to history was pretty far from my mind, well, others things mattered way back then. I do remember the early French explorers, Cartier, Champlain (French), Hudsons Bay Company (English), General Wolfe (hero) and Montcalm (defeated), Louis Riel (Metis traitor hanged) Brebeuf (missionary murdered and skinned alive by Indians). All else in later grades Canadian history was second to British history, European history and American history (where Manifest Destiny was revealed to me). (Comments in brackets are what I was led to believe.)

The book by David Orchard, “The Fight for Canada”, resurrected from my subconscious, or genetic memory (?), a Canadian history to be proud of, for the most part, and particularly our successes in defending our distinct Canadian values derived from survival through co-operation (for the most part), when the "chips were down", as opposed to survival by genocide and theft. As such, I have revised my grade school notions of Canada’s past.

With courage, cunning and respect amongst the compatriot-allies, English, French and other multinational Canadians, First Nations and the British, Canada was defended from the American obsession with Manifest Destiny.

This is what I read and knew in my Canadian bones that I was proud of:
“If “manifest destiny” is to be stopped, it will have to be done where it has been done before: in 1690, at the rock of Quebec (Count Frontenac) ; in 1775, under the battlements of that same city (Guy Carleton); in 1812/13, on the battlefields of Queenston Heights (Tecumseh, Isaac Brock, Laura Secord) and Chateauguay (de Salaberry, First Nations); in 1864 in Charlottetown (Thomas D'Arcy McGee, Sir John A. Macdonald, Sir Georges-Etienne Cartier, George Brown and so many more ‘fathers’); in 1870, on the plains south of Winnipeg (Louis Riel and Gabriel Dumont); in 1871, in British Columbia (De Cosmos); and in 1949, in Newfoundland (Smallwood). When the chips were down Canadians never failed the test of history. The chips are down today.”
- The Fight for Canada p.243 (comments in brackets mine)

“At so many other critical times in Canadian history, a remarkable individual had emerged.”
- ibid p.110

So what happened after Smallwood?

The big slide seemed to start at the end of the 1970’s with the neo-con ascendancy of Margaret Thatcher, PM of Britain (1979 -1990) , not to mention being preceded one year by “Dallas”, the TV series (1978 - 1991) to get us in the ‘mood’.

But, for the most part, the common thread is during the period of the 80’s and 90’s. Thatcher was on a roll in the early 80’s and so was “Dallas”, the most successful American soap opera in the world. On the heels of this trend to economic growth, conspicuous consumption, pursuit of wealth and happiness, was the American Dream come true - two times over, a Hollywood movie star and President of the United States, Ronald Reagan ((1981 – 1989), famous for financing Bin Laden and the Afgan mujahadeen, Reagan’s “freedom fighters”, and ultimately bankrupting the USSR ending the Cold War. The TV series “Dynasty” (1981 - 1989) jumped on the lucrative bandwagon and bloated the national economy – buy, buy, buy debt is cool! And if that was not to beat all Canada got Brian Mulroney (1984 – 1993) and the TV series, “Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous” (1984 – 1995) in the same year!! Is there no end to this neo-con dream?

It is also important to keep in mind that there were some ‘redeeming’ (sarcasm) qualities to this period I call, “The Age of Excellence”, initiated by a book, “In Search of Excellence” an international bestselling book written by Tom Peters and Robert H. Waterman Jr, first published in 1982. Wall Street/Harvard Business School seemed to interpret the message of excellence in balance sheets and bottom lines, heralding in the epoch of the ‘excellence of the leanest and meanest’. Interestingly enough the book was based on false data, He (Tom Peters) is quoted as saying, "This is pretty small beer, but for what it's worth, okay, I confess: We faked the data." Seems like ‘excellence’ was devolving into shady ethical regions. Signs of more to come: Enron, Worldcom, and other corporate scandals.

Alas, back in Canada, the Mulroney/Campbell Conservatives finally succumbed to a woken up Canada, Trudeau was making much influential noise in his retirement to whom Canadians still turned to. In 1993 and his/her (actually Mulroney retired, plummeting in the polls, and left to Kim Campbell to make the best of a looming disaster) government was humiliatingly thrown out of office with only 2 members surviving of 295 parliamentary seats. The following governments, Liberals under Chretien (and later Martin) were ‘saviours’ to a desperate public clamouring to get out of this FTA and GST as had been promised in the famous Liberal ”Red Book”.

Another interesting event in 1993, George H.W. Bush was voted out and Bill Clinton came to power. Had North America had enough right-of-centre Conservatism? Not really, part of it went underground and distilled into Neo Conservatism and the other part morphed into the Liberals. Clinton disgraced himself with Monica and several years after that, Chretien disgraced the Liberals with Harper making an incredible noise about Ad Scam and Liberal corruption. I don’t know if Martin was disgraced but it seems he did nothing to disgrace himself except by almost submitting to Bush’s version of American Manifest Destiny. Canadians still had the courage to oppose its government and he backed down much to Bush’s disgust. Nevertheless we were sick of the corrupt Liberals and were angry enough to risk teaching them a lesson – a minority government of Harper's neo-con Conservatives. Now we are out of the territory that is covered in “The Fight for Canada” and I would highly recommend it to all before Harper finds a good excuse to get his Conservatives (Note: emphasis on the “his” as he does the talking and not his ministers) a majority government.

To give him his due, He stands head above shoulders in laying out his goals and taking action on them. He means what he says and then more so, he means what he isn’t saying. He reminds me of Mike Harris out-kleining Ralph Klein, and Reagan out-thatchering Thatcher and given Harper’s current unique global profile, he has achieved a reputation of “out-bushing Bush”!

PM's pro-Israeli tilt could cost him at polls

- But Harper is "out-bushing Bush," as Opposition Leader Bill Graham says. Whereas several G8 leaders thought of the Israeli bombardment of Lebanon as outrageously disproportionate, Harper found it "measured."

- A Canadian prime minister thus did not utter a word of protest against the killing of eight Canadians, let alone of nearly 300 other people and the displacement of about 500,000 civilians and the destruction of civilian infrastructure

Haroon Siddiqui, Jul. 20, 2006
rabble.ca

The man is re-defining the power of minority government! It is truly remarkable what he says he’s going to do! And the scariest part is that there is no one on the radar that will stand up to him!

Remember when Trudeau made the statement, “Just watch me.” when he refused to yield to the FLQ demands in the October Crisis? Well at least he represented a majority of Canadians and his feisty leadership style was something he was born with. You either loved him or hated him. Alberta, Big Oil and the Republican Americans hated him but the rest of us loved him. He had magic.

Harper mirrors this attitude towards his opponents but is not concerned with “annoying certain segments of the population”. He also had image consultants and a ‘makeover’ to sell him to the public, also a majority of Canadians didn’t vote for him (“certain segments” = 63%) and then this stunning Rambo attitude makes you wonder how he can say what he says and does. His bravado is backed by something as yet unseen, though I expect it is Bush. Rex Harper has recently described Harper as:

He is, in his personal demeanour, reserved, formal, polite, studious. Almost, in fact, a classic nerd. His personality, insofar as he allows himself to project one in public, is low key to the point of being indistinct. Allow me to tantalize those with long memories: Stephen Harper is more Earl Cameron than Douglas Fairbanks
- Rex Murphy, theglobeandmail .com, July 22/06

I think Harper went overboard, either that or he shares a telephone booth with Clark Kent. I still have hope though. Once again I’ll repeat a quote from Orchard’s book:

“At so many other critical times in Canadian history, a remarkable individual had emerged.”
- ibid p.110

We have pulled together before with great leaders such as, Frontenac, Carleton, Tecumseh, Brock, Secord, de Salaberry, First Nations, D'Arcy McGee, Macdonald, Cartier, Brown, Riel, Dumont, De Cosmos, Smallwood and thousands of others. And no matter what we decide to do there will always be consequences, and even if we stick our heads in the sands there will always be consequences. Canada is still a land of an abundance of natural resources and we are known as a fair generous people and let us accept the consequences of ensuring our own future and not let others create fear, insecurity and decisions for us. We have no less to fear than other courageous and less advantaged nations who are willing and able to stand up for themselves and discover that the consequences were not as dire as others and their own leaders would have them believe.

Harper says he is "Standing up for Canada" but he is not standing up for most of Canada’s people, he is standing up for someone else. If a majority of us stood up for ourselves, once again we would be a nation deserving of it’s good name in the world. Have no doubt that the consequences will be very difficult but I'll leave this with the Dalai Lama from his book "Ethics for the New Millenium":

"It is also worth remembering that the time of greatest gain in terms of wisdom and inner strength is often that of greatest difficulty. With the right approach - and here we see once more the supreme importance of developing a positive attitude - the experience of suffering can open our eyes to reality."
- p.139

Let us hope that when Harper rolls out the 'red carpet' for His Holiness he can hear above the noise of conflict.


Links:

The Fight for Canada by David Orchard
http://www.davidorchard.com/online/2do-index.html

Ethics for a New Millenium by His Holiness the Dalai Lama
http://www.tibet.ca/en/wtnarchive/1999/9/13_4.html


A change in emphasis
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1153566043901
Harper's approach, he says, has been very different: more personal, more aggressive, more ideological, less nuanced.
"What this suggests is a real revolution in the way foreign policy is conducted," he says. Nossal sees the shift as significant.
"Harper is willing to take a steely-eyed view and not worry about annoying certain segments of the population," he says. "His first eye isn't on risk avoidance."

Bush sneaking North American super-state without oversight?
Mexico, Canada partnership underway with no authorization from Congress
by Jerome R. Corsi
June 17, 2006
WorldNetDaily.com
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=COR20060617&articleId=2663

Manifest Destiny
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_Destiny

Thinking the unthinkable about Canada’s future
by Geoff Olson, July 19, 2006
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=OLS20060719&articleId=2761

Manifest Destiny - America the New Israel
http://gbgm-umc.org/UMW/Joshua/manifest.html
- The Joshua Website
http://gbgm-umc.org/UMW/Joshua/joshua3.stm
This page is an excerpt from Joshua and the Promised Land
copyright © Roy H. May, Jr

Exceptional Americans Manifest Their Destiny: And to Hell with the Consequences...
by Jason Miller
June 20, 2006
GlobalResearch.ca
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MIL20060620&articleId=2677

A pattern emerges….
Afghanistan and Iraq are not aberrations in United States foreign policy. Bush and his Neocons are not “a few bad apples”. They may be more malevolent than their predecessors, but they are not the first to advance American corporate and plutocratic interests through lies, propaganda, invasion, and flagrant crimes against humanity. America’s socioeconomic system has engendered and reinforced such pathological behavior for years.

Stephen Harper: A photo-op too far
http://rabble.ca/everyones_a_critic.shtml?sh_itm=05fb2324b649ccfa1ac3362ca04ca3a9&rXn=1&

PM's pro-Israeli tilt could cost him at polls
Jul. 20, 2006. 01:00 AM
HAROON SIDDIQUI
Finally, the struggle to keep Canada's voice distinct and separate from that of the United States is bred in our bones.

But Harper is "out-bushing Bush," as Opposition Leader Bill Graham says. Whereas several G8 leaders thought of the Israeli bombardment of Lebanon as outrageously disproportionate, Harper found it "measured."

A Canadian prime minister thus did not utter a word of protest against the killing of eight Canadians, let alone of nearly 300 other people and the displacement of about 500,000 civilians and the destruction of civilian infrastructure.

63 Percent Sure.

Did Harper get your shorts in a knot on Monday, Jan 23rd and you can't afford to launder them?

Not to worry!!

63% of Canadian voters didn't even vote for Harper!



Murray Dobbin wrote in the Tyee, Not So Bad, Eh?. It'll get you some perspective on what we might expect. Pretty much a lame duck Conservative Government.

Even the Americans were watching this one with more than a bit of interest. This is from an article on Alternet.org by Joshua Holland, "Cry in your Molson". There are many comments on the post by reasonable people and I, yours truly darthcricket, couldn't resist the Molson's!!! So I posted

"Molson's is American!"
It was a sad day for hockey when the frothheads at Molson's got guzzled by Coors. This is a prime example of "deep integration" which was a boilingfrog deception for the right Liberals and is a wet dream for the Harper Conservatives. Deep Integretion is the same as a stealth, fifth column, invasion of Canada. Now that the two major players are onside with this one, we have to be very watchful of this, not to mention the exponentially valuable commodity of WATER!

and further down:

One other BIG irony! John Molson, the founder of Molson's, was part of a group of wealthy Montreal business men in the 1880's who were pressuring freer trade and for eventual annexation to the US. There is a book written by David Orchard who is a Conservative, but NOT a Harper Conservative (and that is another wild story in Canadian Conservative history),


The Fight For Canada: Four Centuries of Resistance to American Expansionism.

Canada has always been a target for American Manifest Destiny, either by force of invasion - none successful, trade policy - potentially successful, or just plain political interference - regime change, eg. JFK's operatives in Canada to defeat the Diefenbaker Gov't and install a gov't that soon allowed the testing of US Bomarc Missles over Canadian air space.

And for another perspective on Canadian values, 63% of us for sure, for our southern friends, read this interview with David Orchard, Canada, Nationalism, and Empire".

So that being said and that being read, we can be sure of one thing, it his improbable that the sky will fall. It would be more likely to be bird shit!

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